Every African American who supports Hillary Clinton has heard this whine a million times. Clueless, these Obots don’t realize how insulting their words are. Of course it’s an insult to me and other black Hillary Clinton supporters; the assumption that choosing a candidate for president using criteria other than a commonality of pigmentation is an infraction worthy of causing me to lose kinship with those whose shared experience, background and blood shapes my identity, is wrong on too many levels to count. It is also an insult to the person making such stereotypical statements. Whether they realize it or not, basing an opinion on racial assumptions is pretty much the definition of the word “stereotype,” and qualifies the person making such comments as a bigot. It’s also an insult to the candidate such people are trying to promote. It says that there are no other grounds for supporting his candidacy. Whatever.
Ann Price Mills, in this video, says what a lot of us feel, and I am grateful to her for having the courage and strength to speak her mind. I am saddened by the fact that to speak as she does requires courage and strength in the first place.
PUMA
Just Say No Deal
I thought electing Obama meant that we didn’t need to fight for rights for blacks anymore.
Guess something got screwed up in the white/black programming code.
Anne price-Mills is entitled to say whatever she wants.She is more the rule and not the exception.There are many black women who are carrying the tourch for women without any desire to fight for rights for blacks as a whole.If they did that they would have to support our brothers like Barack who are trying to make a difference and course that goes against all that White America has programmed them to be.
I may be ridiculous, but you can’t read. My last post was well after Obama’s acceptance speech, and if you think a speech is some sort of proof of anything, you have even less of a grasp on reality than he does. He has no record of accomplishment, his entire campaign is based on being black when convenient. Talk to somebody who doesn’t know the meaning of the word “tokenism.” I’m not interested.
Cinie,
You are ridiculous. Seeing that your last post was before Obama’s acceptance speech, I can only wonder how you are spinning his plan and its specifics into some kind of proof that he is still not ready. Do you believe McCain and Palin are the better choice?
You say illusion of progress, in my opinion, because you have fully removed yourself from the process. If you do not believe in the positive things that Senator Obama believes in, then that is one thing, but to define it as an illusion is to take away the power of your continued fihgt and support for policies you believe in.
Too many people vote and think it all ends on election day and begins with the inauguration. If everyday citizens took stock in what their collective voice represented, and the change that their persistent passion and lobbying could bring, progress wouldn’t be the “illusion” you describe it as. It would be reality.
Please be advised, this is not a pro-Obama forum. I deeply disagree with his candidacy and the illusion of progress he represents. I am sure there are many other forums for those impressed with what I consider to be the dubious accomplishment of being propelled over the finish line to tokenism by others whose self-interests lie in a straight line away from true racial equality. Please use them for your Obama cheerleading. Thank you for visiting. I will delete further posts promoting the farce of his symbolic selection.
Thursday, August 28, 2008
I can understand how a compassionate delegate can definitely get caught up in the moment. Ann Price – Mills has definitely expressed that she wanted Hillary to succed at all costs. It must have been very painful for her and her team because Obama literally came from nowhere to take the Democratic Party by storm.
It is human nature to grieve a loss, however we will lose a lot more if delegates like
Ann Price- Mills don’t dust themselves off and catch the vision. Hillary would have made a fine Presidential candidate or VP, but we can not focus on what could have been.
I personally did not think Obama could have navigated his team through the mine fields to make it as the Democratic Presidential front –runner, and now Democratic Nominee. As he ran his race I gained and unbelievable amount respect and awe for him and this undertaking.
Anyone Black, White or Gay or Straight that leads a campaign like he has as a relative unknown and win, is very Intelligent, Powerful and has a keen sense of focus and vision. I decided Obama was my candidate during the race!
It is time for everyone to listen to Hillary’s words. “Did you do it for me or the Democratic Party”?
Pain, Envy and Doubts should never let a Republican slip into the White House. The smoke has cleared and it is time to recapture our government.
Please do the right thing and elect Obama.
Lance
Tahj Allen, it would help if you made sense. Triumphs of symbolism are transparent and of little value. And I certainly did not support O. J. Simpson. For some, it is more important to nominate a black man, than that the black man in question truly represents them. The answer to that question says a lot about the character of the person.
WOW!!!! Black on Black crime at the DNC who would have ever thought not only in poverty stricken, and gang infested neighborhoods but CNN I am impressed. When will Black people understand that only through UNITY will they rise, the Irish, Italians, Mexicans, and Asians have all found success in America by supporting one another no matter what. Now this Black woman claims that she may not vote at all; pissing on the graves of all their CIvil-Rights activist . In the words of Martin Luther King jr “I have a dream” or in the words of Rodney KIng “Can’t we all just get along” when will black people stop worrying about the welfare of other people, from the look of things they are fine. You love Kobe, Lebron, and Jordan and support them unequivically when “The Juice” was on trial every Black person I know supported him regardless, but now that it is something that has nothing to do with putting a ball in a hoop or a touchdown you guys want to bicker and fight
I am so proud of Ann Price Mills who had the courage to share her feelings publicly at her own personal risk. Her convictions and admitting that she is faced with an agonizing decision over this election makes me feel empowered. We don’t have a lot of that these days. We are increasingly inclined to keep our opinions to ourselves, as a minority of Democratic Party members have experienced this primary season. And the stakes are huge anyway you might slice them.
I am tired of these labels being thrown around (like “true democrat”). I would like to know what defines one. These labels, which are arbitrary anyway are extremely divisive, and part of the reason what is wrong with our party. The world is seeing that we are not what we claim to be which is a party of individuals, with individual rational thought and creative ideas, but instead are trying to bully others to do what they want despite individual personal convictions. And I completely agree that it is the epitome of using stereotypes to say that one should have the same thought(s) because we are all supposed to be the same/act a certain way or *insert whatever reason in here*. This leads to a party of sycophants (or, yes-men and yes-women), and as history shows that type of leadership always implodes. And why the Democratic party is imploding now. Hillary did all she could do to save it.
And the other most bothersome thing, is the labeling of “resentment.” That’s an easy one to throw around when you don’t understand the root of another persons convictions!
Not quite a digression… but the movie “12 Angry Men” was on the other night. In the light of this whole primary season, I was struck by the brilliance of how it showed 10 men who had varying opinions that the defendant was guilty based upon their own prejudices, fears, and other emotions; even how one’s sticking to what he considers rational actually blinds him to the truth. We’re not sure if the 11th man believes the minority kid to be guilty, he just isn’t convinced beyond a reasonable doubt that he is so. And the 12th man believed the kid was guilty based upon his own racist notions, or bigotry (the term I prefer). When the 12th man’s bigotry became apparent to the others, they all pushed away from this man. Their anger they sharply realized was quite different than the 12th man’s anger, which wasn’t remotely justifiable or even tenable.
It becomes clear to the viewer, that bigotry (an irrational view to disregard the facts) is something that is obvious, and that One doesn’t have to be convinced that another is a bigot, bigotry is more apparent than that because it really has no rational basis or root of conviction.
Obama’s campaign has been in part based upon trying to convince us that those who don’t support him are all bigots, like the 12th man when in fact most of us are just the 11 others.
I’m not a literature scholar, but it is apparent to me that these 12 angry men are just archetypes in their relation to the truth. And by extension these archetypes can be applied to those delegates within the Democratic Party. And the jury room is the convention which is supposed to be the forum where the truth is discerned.
Incidentally, for those who haven’t seen the movie. Henry Fonda plays the 11th man I’m referring to. His character, which I believe to be the natural inquisitor archetype shows that a person doesn’t have to believe in one’s guilt/innocence to do what is right, which is to question those facts that are presented to us to in order to ascertain the truth.
Anyway, it’s time the Obama supporters start realizing that there are many Democrats who are the 11th man. We are naturally drawn to question why? and search beyond the facts as they have been presented to us. And that we may just disagree with the rest of the group, based upon something that transcends anger, or bias, or resentment — principle
Principle, that if you have any knowledge of convention history, you might be inclined to deem important. Perhaps more important than supporting a candidate for the sake of saving a party.
This is one of the few articles I’ve come across that actually sheds some light on this:
“Hillary Clinton Speaks at Convention. The Press Concocts a Story” by Eric Boehlert
http://mediamatters.org/columns/200808260005
I agree it,s not about race or gender. And, I’m not a “true Democrat,” I now have no party affiliation. I have no desire to be aligned with any group that expects me to accept whatever BS they decide to serve. Thanks for visiting.
I disagree with you wholeheartedly. It does black America no good to conspire to maneuver a candidate into office simply because he’s black and it’s time. To say that because he “outsmarted Bill and Hillary Clinton” he is qualified to be president defies logic and belief. Ms. Mills had every right to say whatever she wanted to whomever she chose to speak. She’s an American. Thanks for visiting.
It does not bother me that Anne Price Mills support Hillary Clinton…..
It does not bother me that many African-Americans won’t vote for Barack Obama….
It does not bother me that Stephanie Tubbs-Jones and Sheila Jackson-Lee campaigned for Mrs. Clinton
….but you know what bothers me?
Leaders tell us to tell our kids, “Work hard and one day you can grow up to be President”, as long as other people tell you when you can run for the office.
That America won’t acknowledge Obama’s brilliance…his leadership skills….the agressiveness to go after what he wants…NOW! If Barack Obama were a Rookie in the NBA or NFL, they would be more at ease, because Obama would be in his element.
Barack Obama meets all the requirements the the Founding Fathers mandated to run for U.S. President…and he outsmarted Bill and Hillary Clinton, he surely can lead this country.
Finally, Mrs. Anne Price Mills does not realized that her sermon last night was not the time to bad mouth a Brotha, you see, other races can do this sort of thing in public, but when you are attacking a fellow Black…your words become propaganda.
Anne Price Mills is entitled to her beliefs, but she would have been wise to not voice them to Suzanne Malveaux and CNN…..now, the WORLD. She just perpetuated a stereotype and she does not even know it.